Curse

WasAGuest · Jul 24, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

I feel your pain in PuGs and have rescently gone to either using hencies or logging off if no friends and guildies are on.
After trying for over two weeks to get all Masters and all Bonuses done with my monk, I got tired of the following (and thus refuse to use PuGs at all now):

- People running off to unlock a spot on the map then pulling multiple groups on us, then, they map out.
- People not saying they are capping, grab the cap then map out without so much as a word. If they would say they need the cap, great, I'll help them get it... but Nooo.
- People afking the entire mission. One such instance, I was so sick of it, I convinced the rest of the group via whispers to return to the afker and we sat there for a good 45 minutes chatting. When the afker came back, he had the nerve to curse us out for having not finished the mission yet.
- The idiots that run off and aggro several groups then stand there screaming that no one followed them and healed/rezzed them within a two second timeframe.

So yea, I've seen the idiots... it's seemingly getting worse as well. Henchie AI upgrades FTW!

Thallandor · Jul 24, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

lessons in GW:

A poor group with expert monks - will barely complete mission.

An expert group even without monks - will complete mission.

A guild group - get mission with eyes closed.

An average group with a poor monk - time to look for another PuG.

For Thristy River, get everyone to bring a rez sig, it recharges each time you kill a boss and always rez ASAP. Make sure you either have a Dom mesmer, interupt ranger or a nuker in your party and the monk should carry some form of condition removal as well. And use the 2 minute Rule to your advantage.

Edit:
Every Mission in GW can be completed either with a certain build and "tricks" to use to make them easier, you just need to employ them and make sure everyone in your group knows about them and what to do.

WhiteZombie · Jul 24, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01

i love monking for wammos with foci, smiting skills, healing breeze, non-max armor, and, despite being a wammo, not having a res. at all. and people say some assassins are bad...

Maria The Princess · Jul 24, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

ahh the idiots.........

today i joined a infusion/mission group in Iron mines. i asked: mission/infusion? they said YES. so we leave and i hear:

" we have to clear every spot here to find all the skill caps that Mr. Ranger and Mr. Warior needs"

"we are not runing infsion, we are fighting"

"no dont worry this will take only 15 minutes"

"yes we can kill jades witout infuusion"

well, they just wanted me there regardless of what i needed and was asking for "LFG mission/infusion"

PLZ PLZ PLZ if you want to cap, advertise as capping group, not mission group!!!!!!

oh and did i mention i was a monk? maby thats why......

Sanji · Jul 24, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

I wouldn't put it quite like shardfenix, but I do believe any normal person would have to go out of his way to be awful as most people in Guild Wars.

Seriously, it can't be that these people are lousy players with rotten attitudes by default, you have to put forth effort for to reach these levels of internet-tardness.

TadaceAce · Jul 24, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45

Wow you died monking in thirsty river? You must be using healing breeze, aren't you!

Monks don't bring rez sig, if anything they bring hard rez (pve wise, pvp if the monk has rez sig laugh at him and leave after he uses it). If your team goes through multiple rez sigs in one fight they more than suck and you should move along.

Healing breeze... no... just no... every time I see a monk spamming healing breeze all over the place I just shake my head and sigh. Most of its healing is wasted (if not stripped) because its used on a target with like 90% hp because you just can't use it on a person under 50% without expecting to be rezzing him before your next heal. Not to mention every, yes every (well except one), type of enemy group in factions has strips (nahpui quarter before turtle is only place there isn't). Hell prophecies requires so little healing you can get away with using breeze.

You wanna see idiocy, play RA for 1 hour and pay close attention to the builds used there... thats a whole thread in itself.

LenTano · Jul 24, 2006, 06:19 AM // 06:19

ROFL! This thread is great!

Here is a character by character recap of how most bad pugs are outfitted.

Necro: I'm a Necro DAMNIT! I have SS so I'm LEET. Oh oh look at the mob I just aggroed...(Runs behind other casters)

Ranger: I'm a Ranger DAMINT! I don't care if (or even understand) if my spirits are hurting the team! Besides, I'm the big damage dealer here!! (while using longbow at closr range) NR & EOE FTW!!

Monk: I'm a Monk! (angelic background music starts) I spit on your noobness! I am LEET because I am! If you need too much healing I will leave. If you don't I will go AFK for the mission. Ethier way I am the $#!t!! SO 8p.

Mesmer: (sound of wind blowing on empty desert plane)

Ele: AOE Nerf? Firestorm causes mobs to break up? Where's that damn necro with my BR? (spams energy in chat) My energy is 8 of 60. HURRY UP I CAN'T BREEZE MYSELF!

Assassin: I am a Tank DAMNIT! DAMN NOOB MONK!!! WHY AM I ALWAYS DEAD?

Rit: I am expected to be a Monk......I try...I fail! No Respect at allo I tell ya!

Warrior: LEEROOOY MMMM JEEENKIIINS

LT

Cottage Pie · Jul 24, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minus Sign

*hands shardfenix a flame retardant coat* you'll need this...

No; a good place to use breeze is anywhere that you can't train/buy Heal other. If you're going to put a 10 mana spell on your bar with the intent to use it, use the 10 mana spell that will do the most good in the most situations. An ally under degen who is close to max health needs no help from you yet.

+1. A monks job is not to keep peoples health bars full, just to keep them alive and fighting no matter what.

Morganas · Jul 24, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

If you have more than 10 degen on you, which happens sometimes, your breeze will be gimpier than a normal heal anyways, since it's being negated by the >10 degen, and removing >10 degen with breeze is pointless, since nothing past 10 hurts you. I guess the only point of breeze is in boosting a followup with dwana's kiss or healing light.

Kareem · Jul 24, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

I was doing the Zen Daijun mission with my new ranger character, being the only ranger in the group you would I assume I would be the one pulling all the mobs back when needed...but no. I thought I was playing with a bunch of 7 year olds

Other characters without bows would rush in, aggro mobs and just get slaugthered before the other players could do anything...Multiple times I was told to stay back.

"Keep out of the miasma!!!1!11!!"

O RLY?

I finally said screw it and left...not worth my time

Chaz_Fox · Jul 24, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by led-zep

thirsty is soloable anyway, i used to do it for guildmembers as for one i like the mission and secondly they think its cool to watch it being solo'd

well it would be pretty hard for me to solo it, seeing as i'm a monk lol. Also, apparently soloing the mission (or even doing it with henchies) would be pretty hard, as you have to go around killing the teams as well as keeping the Ghostly Hero alive.

(Then again, he's got pretty good defensive capabilities, so he could probably handle the enemy.)

Cebe · Jul 24, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by LenTano

Mesmer: (sound of wind blowing on empty desert plane)

I am hurt by that statement!

Mesmers are cool - admittedly, there aren't many who can do it properly, But I was in a team of 3 Mesmers for Tahnnakai Temple - we 'pwnd' everything in there...

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I was trying to complete the mission in the Sunjiang District the other day. Asked my brother to come online since he's a monk (much easier to get into a group that way

). Eventually we got into one and started the mission. The warrior, who was group leader suddenly said "I don't want to lead anymore. Someone else lead". I just looked at that and thought nothing of it.

After a while he said it again...and again... After we killed the first couple of spirits he saw Shiro, we walked past his chamber, the warrior says:

Warr: "OMG"
Warr: "OMG IT'S SHIRO"
Warr: "We have to kill Shiro"
Everyone else: "NO"
Monk: "We go this way"
Warr: "We Kill Shiro"
Monk: "No - We go this way"
*Draws on map*

The warrior shuts up and goes along with us. After a while he says:

Warr: "We Need to kill Shiro"
Everyone else: "NO"

My brother pitches in and tells him to "read the mission objectives already"

The warrior waits a couple of minutes and then says "I've never done this misson before"

Reeeeeaally?

Zakarr · Jul 24, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

My funniest PUG experience has been when assassin tell others (even warriors) to stay behind his back. Obviously the assassin died very quickly and complained that there was not enough healing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Ashwood

triple post [/shakefist]

Servers are lagging. Press Submit Reply only one time even nothing happens in some time because multiple clicks goes in queue and produce these multiple posts.

Charqus · Jul 24, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59

My friend got the game and he always wanted me to help him.
The worst thing was in game he was the biggest idiot ever. My guild always had a laugh about saying next time we recruit we should say you must have an IQ larger than 4.
He was fun to be in a group with because he was so stupid but he always seemed to lead to the death of a group.

Tark Alkerk · Jul 24, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

one time i was in RA.
i was playing a flash bot
i was in a pretty good team at first glance (read had a monk)
so the battle begins.
were at flamming place with all the lava,
toasty...
so the monk starts spamming in team chat:
Call
even before either side were fighting each other.
after a while i got hacked off with this and said:
k i willl call (cos i had lightning orb and hammer)
so the battle starts and the other team has a warrior, he runs accross the bridge in the usual fashien,
and i stick blind and weakness on hi to be on the safe side.
the battle proceeds. i can my first target, the other teams monk.
i start to cast lightning orb and, what this miagraine?
i crtl miagraine hoping that one of my team will remove of me.
we had a mesmer and a monk, along with an assasin.
i continue wanding the monk, calling occasionally that my miagraine hadn't been removed.
i used my other spells on their monk.
they were all interupted by ther teams mesmer.
i once again exclaim that i have miagraine on my as welll as dazed so i am pretty much shut down.
i call the monk still, even tho i would like the memser to go down,
but the mesmer wouldn't die with healing from the monk.
at this point i am constantly getting interupted.
i still call my hexs and conditions,
i even right out if the time that my skills are rechargeing,
that if the monk could remove miagraine and dazed from me i would be very happy.

at last miagraine runs its time out.
the mesmer was using mantra of persitance.
i try to cast still with daze on.
and lo and behold i get interupted and miagraine lands on my again.
the battle quickly takes a turn for the worst. and the other 2 people on my team have either run into the lava and degened to death. or were dead alrdy.
furoiusly the monk starts calling on and on again.
and then says
"OMG WHY DIDN'T U CALL U ********* NUB"
me:i did call man scroll up^
" well u weren't doing enough dmg"
me; i couldn't do anything because i was shut down all the time.
i had miagraine and dazed on me for the whole of that match and the mesmer kept on interupting me.
he keeps on blabbing that i am a bad player and a nub and that i shouldn't play this game.

i pointed out to him that he had NO hex removal
that he had NO condtion removal
and that he was using blessed sig for energy management, with only boon
giving him a whole 3 enegy everytime he used it.

my keyboard would have gone out the window if it had not have a wire connecting it to the computer.

Marth Reynolds · Jul 24, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by LenTano

ROFL! This thread is great!

Mesmer: (sound of wind blowing on empty desert plane)

Assassin: I am a Tank DAMNIT! DAMN NOOB MONK!!! WHY AM I ALWAYS DEAD?

Warrior: LEEROOOY MMMM JEEENKIIINS

LT

i have seen so many assasin actually using the LEEEERRROOYY JEENNKKIINSS style and of course die way to fast.
as for mesmers they are quite good but oly a small part of the GW community seems to apreciate and understand them. but overall younever hear mesmers in chat while in a fight

Silent Kitty · Jul 24, 2006, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds

i have seen so many assasin actually using the LEEEERRROOYY JEENNKKIINSS style and of course die way to fast.

Dying is a part of an assassins strategy.

Cebe · Jul 24, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds

as for mesmers they are quite good but oly a small part of the GW community seems to apreciate and understand them. but overall younever hear mesmers in chat while in a fight

Speaking as a Mesmer, I never chat whilst in a fight for two reasons:

1. Why waste time typing?
2. I'm too busy trying to maintain hexes on the enemy and keeping them as shut down as possible, without having to worry about how much I'm contributing to the chat window.

I often think that if you have enough time to chat, whilst fighting (other than holding ctrl to call a target) you're not fighting to your full potential.

NJudson · Jul 24, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I am hurt by that statement!

Mesmers are cool - admittedly, there aren't many who can do it properly, But I was in a team of 3 Mesmers for Tahnnakai Temple - we 'pwnd' everything in there...

I too like a good mesmer. My monk has a mesmer secondary and really the only time I get to use cool mesmer spells is if I play with henchies. If I play with henchies I max out domination and smiting and let the bitches Alesia and Lina take care of healing. But alas, in PUG your really stuck with just healing/protecting because that's all anyone really wants you for. I relish the rare times where I get in a PUG with 3 or more monks so some of us get to use our smite skills.

Silent Kitty · Jul 24, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Speaking as a Mesmer, I never chat whilst in a fight for two reasons:

1. Why waste time typing?
2. I'm too busy trying to maintain hexes on the enemy and keeping them as shut down as possible, without having to worry about how much I'm contributing to the chat window.

I often think that if you have enough time to chat, whilst fighting (other than holding ctrl to call a target) you're not fighting to your full potential.

I agree. I met a wammo once, who in the middle of a fight suddenly asked "So, hey! Where is everybody from? Anybody played WoW?" I simply ignored him, because, unlike him, I was very busy fighting and healing

They all suddenly were chatting in the middle of a mission, and they all forgot about master's rewards and stuff.